Re: smaller schools are better

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Posted by I Think We Can Agee That This Comparison Is Flawed on May 21, 2007 at 21:02:01 (EST):

In Reply to: Re: smaller schools are better posted by More Economics Than Education 3 on May 21, 2007 at 20:57:29 (EST):

: : : : I have been reading here that research says smaller schools are better than larger schools. No one has ever given any facts to back this up. All we get are opinions. Recently there has been much discussion about the fact that the ASD was ranked 283 out of 500 public schools in a recent poll. This was done by the Pittsburgh Business Times and its sole criterion was the 3 year aggregate on the PSSA assessment test. Since smaller schools are better according to some people here we would expect the 10 top schools to be the smaller ones. Let's do a little research and see the numbers of the top ten. Grades 9 to 12.
: : : : 1. UPPER ST. CLAIR 1413
: : : : 2. CONESTOGA 1480
: : : : 3. MT. LEBANON 1466
: : : : 4. HAMPTON 831
: : : : 5. CENTRAL BUCKS 1770
: : : : 6.UNIONVILLE CHADS FORDS 991
: : : : 7' LOWER MOREHEAD 527
: : : : 8. RADNOR 862
: : : : 9. NORTH ALLEGHENY 2055
: : : : 10. LOWER MERION 1208
: : : : ANY COMMENTS?

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: : : Conestoga High School - Conestoga (also known as "Stoga" or less popularly as "The Big C") is located 15 miles northwest of Philadelphia in a series of "affluent suburbs" known as the Main Line.

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: : : Another afflunet area.

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: : Lower Merion School District, or LMSD, is a public school district located in Montgomery County, Pennsylvania. The school district includes residents of both Lower Merion Township and the Borough of Narberth.

: : Narberth is an enclave surrounded by Lower Merion Township, close to the western edge of the city of Philadelphia. It is considered part of the "Main Line," a string of generally wealthy suburbs extending west from Philadelphia along the old Pennsylvania Railroad "main line," from Merion through Ardmore, Bryn Mawr, Villanova, Devon and Wayne, among other towns and municipalities. Narberth is unique among those locations in that it is fairly enclosed; no major thoroughfares run through the town, but Montgomery Avenue runs northwest/southeast along the borough's northern border.

: : Another affluent area. Are we starting to see a trend here?

: Radnor which students attend from the city of Villanova.

: Description of Villanova

: "The most notable feature of Villanova, other than its extraordinary wealth, is Villanova University, from which the community gains its name."

So the conclusion we should build from the schools listed in the Top 10 is that we should become a wealthy or affluent school district than we can expect to achieve the test scores that these schools do, correct?

Sorry, but building a new high school in Armstrong County is not the magic powder to produce better education. Not at all. Bring in some jobs and then we may see an increase in the test scores. The theory to compare the ASD to the schools on that list is a failed argument at best.

Those are facts, unless you can produce some less affluent schools that made a Top 10 somewhere else.

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: : : : : I have been reading here that research says smaller schools are better than larger schools. No one has ever given any facts to back this up. All we get are opinions. Recently there has been much discussion about the fact that the ASD was ranked 283 out of 500 public schools in a recent poll. This was done by the Pittsburgh Business Times and its sole criterion was the 3 year aggregate on the PSSA assessment test. Since smaller schools are better according to some people here we would expect the 10 top schools to be the smaller ones. Let's do a little research and see the numbers of the top ten. Grades 9 to 12. : : : : : 1. UPPER ST. CLAIR 1413 : : : : : 2. CONESTOGA 1480 : : : : : 3. MT. LEBANON 1466 : : : : : 4. HAMPTON 831 : : : : : 5. CENTRAL BUCKS 1770 : : : : : 6.UNIONVILLE CHADS FORDS 991 : : : : : 7' LOWER MOREHEAD 527 : : : : : 8. RADNOR 862 : : : : : 9. NORTH ALLEGHENY 2055 : : : : : 10. LOWER MERION 1208 : : : : : ANY COMMENTS? : : : : : : : Conestoga High School - Conestoga (also known as "Stoga" or less popularly as "The Big C") is located 15 miles northwest of Philadelphia in a series of "affluent suburbs" known as the Main Line. : : : : : : : : Another afflunet area. : : : : : Lower Merion School District, or LMSD, is a public school district located in Montgomery County, Pennsylvania. The school district includes residents of both Lower Merion Township and the Borough of Narberth. : : : Narberth is an enclave surrounded by Lower Merion Township, close to the western edge of the city of Philadelphia. It is considered part of the "Main Line," a string of generally wealthy suburbs extending west from Philadelphia along the old Pennsylvania Railroad "main line," from Merion through Ardmore, Bryn Mawr, Villanova, Devon and Wayne, among other towns and municipalities. Narberth is unique among those locations in that it is fairly enclosed; no major thoroughfares run through the town, but Montgomery Avenue runs northwest/southeast along the borough's northern border. : : : Another affluent area. Are we starting to see a trend here? : : Radnor which students attend from the city of Villanova. : : Description of Villanova : : "The most notable feature of Villanova, other than its extraordinary wealth, is Villanova University, from which the community gains its name." : : So the conclusion we should build from the schools listed in the Top 10 is that we should become a wealthy or affluent school district than we can expect to achieve the test scores that these schools do, correct? : Sorry, but building a new high school in Armstrong County is not the magic powder to produce better education. Not at all. Bring in some jobs and then we may see an increase in the test scores. The theory to compare the ASD to the schools on that list is a failed argument at best. : Those are facts, unless you can produce some less affluent schools that made a Top 10 somewhere else.

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