Re: Nice try Mike..ha, ha

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: : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : I was just watching channel 23. It looks like Solak got around 70% of the votes. : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : It seems that there aren't quite as many cosolidationists as some would like to have us think. : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : I'd be willing to bet that if Choncek and Rearic had any competition we would have seen a similar response in those races as well. : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : Choncek and Rearic are from regions that are NOT afraid of change and progress, so you wouldn't see a similar response in those races. : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : Peace. : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : It's not about "change" or "progress". It's about not spending more money and raising our already ridiculous taxes. : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : It's also not about "region". The only reason Choncek and Rearic won in their "region" is because nobody else ran. : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : Ford City is a dying town, the coucil is in turmoil. Get a few consolidation seats here and there soon you have a majority and Solak's vote means nothing. : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : Whats FC council have to do with it? : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : I Say let Ford City keep their delapidated building they love so much. Minimal rennovations as they want. The school already is not producing scholars as the vote shows. : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : Why do you say that? : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : Apparently you feel that just because the people didn't vote the way YOU feel they should have they are not "scholars". : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : Typical of the consolidationist point of view..."Anybody who disagrees with me is stupid." : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : But okay, let's do what you are saying...let FC renovate. In that case there is absolutely no reason to be building a new school for Kittanning and Elderton. After all, Elderton only has a few kids and Kittanning has plenty of room. : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : This actually does sound good, because then we could shit-can however many teachers and other workers that are employed at Elderton which would offset the transportation costs of bringing the kids all the way into KHS. : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : You make a very good point. : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : Thanks Dodge! : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : Did not assume they were not scholary because of your vote, but by their insistance of keeping a 100 year old delapidated building. By leaving their children fall behind in studies. Not one Ford City student went to the pjas contest. that is shamefull. a opportunity for a student to show what they have learned. Apparently as long as you have football everything is cool. so yes i say let your students get left behind. I don't want that for my kids. shit can elderton and send those kids packing to West Shamokin. Upgrade classes and opportunities for the kids who want to learn. we will let the kids who want to progress go these schools. The future ditch diggers can go to Ford city since you guys seem to be O.K. with the lack of learning potential at yor 100 year old school. : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : The age of a building has absolutely nothing to do with what caliber of students it turns out. That my friend, is the fault of poor instruction by inept teachers. : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : How old are the buildings at the Ivy League colleges? : : : : : : : : : : : : : : Traditions die hard and most people in general are resistant to change - it tends to make us humans a little uncomfortable when we are faced with the unfamiliar. It's a little unfair then to label Ford City people as being "afraid of change," as if they are the only ones. : : : : : : : : : : : : : : Maybe people have fond memories of school at Ford City and want their kids to have the same. Unfortunately we live in an area that seems to be even slower at being forward thinking and progressive than most. It shows in Kittanning and Worthington and Elderton and Ford City and Leechburg and Vandergrift and Apollo and any other small western Pa. town. We always liked to think of our towns as nice places to raise kids and live out a peaceful family life - who wants to let go of that? : : : : : : : : : : : : : : I'm not saying that that is how it should remain, only that it is a hard fight to win when you try to convince small town people around here to give up traditions and ways of thinking that have been imbedded here for 100 years. Putting them down and insulting them is probably not the most effective way of trying to get them to see the light. Maybe some honest, thoughtful, fair, and organized meetings with local citizens minus all the political banter might get the process started? Maybe not. It might be worth a try and what everyone is doing now doesn't seem to be working to well. : : : : : : : : : : : : : You are doing the same as all the other consolidation people try to do. You are acting as if holding on to "community schools" is the only reason anybody could possibly be against consolidation. It is not. I couldn't care less where the kids attend school. : : : : : : : : : : : : : It is an issue of cost. : : : : : : : : : : : : : Building a new school will not only cost more than the REQUIRED renovations for the 3 schools, it will quite easily surpass even the top tier renovations figures that are being used in the push for consolidation. : : : : : : : : : : : : : Transportation costs were phenomenal during the AC Central consolidation, and that did not even include the Elderton students. : : : : : : : : : : : : : Teaching staff cuts...You are an absolute FOOL if you believe that is ever going to happen. : : : : : : : : : : : : : Yes, Solak does mention a willingness to hold on to "communty schools". However, what he uses are facts and figures to prove that consolidation is going to cost the district much, much more money. : : : : : : : : : : : : : Maybe you should be looking more at the other end. The people for "change", who are "sick of the status quo"...ONLY have that on their side. They can't use facts and figures...because they are DEVASTATING to their case. : : : : : : : : : : : : : It reminds me of the idiots who vote fora candidate because, "change is good". : : : : : : : : : : : : : Change is not always good. : : : : : : : : : : : : In a progressive society change is necessary. : : : : : : : : : : : No. It is not. : : : : : : : : : : : Change just for the sake of change is niether good nor neccessary. : : : : : : : : : : To grow and remain competitive change is necessarry no matter what you are talking about. Constant improvement, new ideas, better curriculms,,,all require change. the status Quo will not allow growing success. : : : : : : : : : Yes, SOME change is usually neccessary, but not any and all change. Sometimes change is a bad thing. : : : : : : : : : Remember "new" Coke? : : : : : : : : : Remember the AC Central consolidation? : : : : : : : : : Change DOES NOT equal progress. : : : : : : : : : There's no C=P formula. : : : : : : : : Many times change leads to progress. : : : : : : : : You will NEVER EVER progress staying the same (i.e. status quo). : : : : : : : So what is "progress"? A NEWER building? LONGER more EXPENSIVE bus routes? HIGHER taxes? : : : : : : : If you want real "progress", the concentration should be on hiring some teachers that know how to teach...or ones that are at least qualified to teach the class they are supposed to be teaching...and more concentration on building maintainance. : : : : : : : Nobody addresses this...all they want to do is build a new school. They seem to feel that somehow this is going to be the answer to all the problems. : : : : : : : What I would call progress, is having kids get better instruction AND reducing property taxes. Consolidation will not increase the quality of instruction the kids get and it will most certainly increase taxes. : : : : : : : : : : : : Good luck breaking that union. You get what you got when it comes to teachers. Some very good Some very bad Some mediocre. The union will block all attempts at pushing for competency tests or any standardized testing that could remove a teacher from a job. The push has to come from ther parents. Push your child to achieve. push the school to provide the classes you feel your child needs. Do not wait for the Distric, state or federal governments to help us get better teachers. : : : : : They could hold back rasies for those who aren't doing their job and they could maybe not just completely cave in to any demand the teachers make. : : : : : You're right though, slim to no chance of either of these things happeneing, but it's not because of the teacher's unuion. That's a national union. I don't know if you realize this but the teachers in this area make more than almost any other in the country, when compared to the salaries of other professions in the area. : : : : : Anywhere else in the coutry a teachers wage is hard to live and almost impossible to support a family on. Here however, it is one of the best paying jobs one could hope for. What percentage of the taxpayers amke $70 k per year? : : : : : It's not the union. It's the school board. They give them whatever they ask for. Why?...becaues most of them have some sort of person interest or gain to be had by granting the teachers' demands. There are retired teachers, who worked in the district and are now collecting a fat pension, and there are otheres who's spouses, children and siblings are currently employed as teachers with the ASD. : : : : You are absolutely correct. The district should be run like a business by a business manager. electing officials only gets the special interests covered. : : : It should be run by the state. : : i can agree with ya on that. : Why do people always seem to come to that conclusion as an answer for whatever problem comes up? Let the state gov. handle it or the Fed. Gov. Sure, great idea. Then we have less say than ever over what happens with our kids in our schools in our communities. Name one thing that the Government's involvement in has caused vast improvement! Think before you answer.

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