Posted by Raoul on April 22, 2007 at 20:15:54 (EST):
In Reply to: Re: H.R. 1022...Dems at it again! posted by Eddie on April 22, 2007 at 15:49:52 (EST):
: : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : Never hear bush say "New World Order"? I guess you never hear him say "Axis of Evil", "Evil do-er", or "Nu-cler" either. He mentioned "The New World Order" in his inauguration speach and has been littering the prase through his adresses ever since.
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: : : : : : : : : : : : : : : I read BOTH of his inauguration speeches. He never mentions a "new world order" in either of the
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: : : : : : : : : : : : : : When you say BOTH I hope you mean BOTH of the Bush presidents. BOTH used this term.
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: : : : : : : : : : : : : See my "Eddie also" post, Raoul.
: : : : : : : : : : : : : Neither of them ever said it in their inaugurations.
: : : : : : : : : : : : : When George Bush said it, it didn't mean what you conspiracy nutjobs think it did.
: : : : : : : : : : : : : Read up!
: : : : : : : : : : : : Think what you want Eddie. It is, after all, your choice. If nothing else this string of posts at least gave you the chance to learn about something that you never even knew existed. I guess you really aren't as well informed as you like to think. Well done Eddie!
: : : : : : : : : : : Yeah, you really helped me out!
: : : : : : : : : : : Thanks for telling me about something that wasn't true.
: : : : : : : : : : : The only thing we "learned" here was that you are a lunatic.
: : : : : : : : : : Something that wasn't true? Bush's grandfather had his property siezed under the Trading with the Enemy Act. Whats not true about that Eddie?
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: : : : : : : : : Yes, Prescott had his assets seized. I did not debate that, Raoul.
: : : : : : : : : What is not true?
: : : : : : : : : "Prescott Bush, had a hand in bringing Hitler to power." -Raoul, 4/16/07
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: : : : : : : : Think what you want, but the fact remains even after America had entered the war and when there was already significant information about the Nazis' plans and policies, he worked for and profited from companies closely involved with the very German businesses that financed Hitler's rise to power.
: : : : : : : Think what YOU want, but the only connection was Thyseen, who quit supporting the Nazis and was denounced by Hitler 2 years before the United States entered WWII.
: : : : : : : The only company he worked for that had any with involvement with Thyssen was Harriman & Co, and he didn't work for them until long after Hilter was already in power.
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: : : : : : YOUR WRONG Eddie.
: : : : : First off, it's "you're" not "your". I would think that when you're only writing 3 words you could get them right.
: : : : : Secondly, no, I am not "wrong". What I wrote is true. What you wrote was a lie.
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: : : : YOU'RE still WRONG Eddie. Maybe what you wrote at some point along the way was true (I'm not going through all your uninformed posts) but I doubt it. Tell me please what I've lied about? If P. Bush was not involved after the U.S. went to war, then why was his property siezed?
: : : What did you lie about?
: : : "Prescott Bush, had a hand in bringing Hitler to power." -Raoul, 4/16/07
: : : That's what you said. You didn't say he was "involved", as you just said in your last post.
: : : He didn't "have a hand in bringing Hitler to power".
: : : The only "involvement" he had was that he was the VP of Harriman & Co., where Thyssen had some of his money. Thyssen quit supporting the Nazi's 2 years before the U.S. entered the war.
: : : Why was his property seized? I've also expained this to you numerous times. His assets were with Harriman & Co.. Since Thyssen had his assets with Harriman and he was, at one time, a supporter, the assets of Harriman were frozen as a precaution.
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: : Eddie you are wrong again and it doesn't surprise me. i think you need to do some research. the company you've mentioned was not the only one that P. Bush was involved with. The fact is he was linked to many and that one wasn't even the only of his ventures seized.
: : also if you don't think being the VP of a company that shipped millions to Germany, both feeding and financing Hitler's build-up to war.
: : is having a hand in it you're blind.
: I guess I'm wrong...because you say so.
: Yes, PB worked for a few different companies before Harriman. The last one was a hardware company. He might have had a paper route at one point also, but I really don't think that would've benifitted the nazis.
: He began at Harriman because he married the owner's daughter, not because he was some kind of banking guru.
: Harriman was the first financial institution he worked for.
: Thyssen was not a nazi supporter when PB began working for Harriman.
: The Prescott/Harriman/Thyssen/Nazi/Hitler connection has been proven untrue.
: Go ahead and connect whatever dots you want.
: Prescott did not "have a hand in bringing Hitler to power".
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I'm glad you can admit you are wrong Eddie. I know it's hard for you to try and make a valid point when you know nothing about the topic, but hey you gave it a try.