Re: H.R. 1022...Dems at it again!

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Posted by Sane Gun Laws on April 16, 2007 at 19:08:57 (EST):

In Reply to: Re: H.R. 1022...Dems at it again! posted by Eddie on April 16, 2007 at 18:52:17 (EST):

: : : : : : : The recent attempted registration/confiscation of legally owned weapons should really be no surprise. Many of the people I spoke with about the Democrats' anti-gun agenda said that there was nothing to worry about. I told 'em, "Just watch and see what they try to do if they get control of the houe and senate".

: : : : : : : On Feb 14, 2007 (just 41 days after the Dems took the helm) Rep. Carolyn McCarthy, a Democrat from NY introduced H.R. 1022.

: : : : : : : This bill, if passed, would not only reinstate the Clinton gun ban, which expired in 2004, but would also ban any guns that were made to comply with the Clinton bill.

: : : : : : : The bill would also ban many additional weapons that the Clinton ban did not, such as all semi-automatic shotguns.
: : : : : : : (For those of you who don't hunt, these are used by many PA small game hunters)

: : : : : : : The bill bans any guns deemed "not sporting" by the Attorney General, even tough the U.S. constitution gives us the right to use guns for defense.

: : : : : : : Also, whereas the Clinton ban was temporary and expired after 10 years, the McCarthy bill would be permanent.

: : : : : : : Whether or not this bill wil get the support it needs to pass is still up in the air. They will probably hold off on voting on it until they see if they can get Hillary or one of the other Dems into the Whitehouse. That way, they can be assured it will pass without the risk of a veto.

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: : : : : : Good. It's about time.

: : : : : : Let's have innocent people die everyday by semi-automatic guns just so a bunch of people can kill deer. Brilliant.

: : : : : : I applaud anyone who stands up to the idiots in the NRA.

: : : : : This goes to show the stupidity of the anti-gunner.
: : : : : Semi-automatic weapons are not allowed in the hunting of big game (deer).

: : : : : Studies required by Congress prior to the Clinton ban showed that the weapons prohibitted by the Clinton ban were used in less than 2% of all violent crimes. The Clinton ban had little to no effect on this.

: : : : : It's funny (not really) how the very same people who rant and rave any time any of our other constitutional rights are violated are so quick to rape us of our 2nd ammendment rights.

: : : : My guess is you just got the monthly NRA letter asking for money and this little gem was in there to get you to send them some $$$$$ Typical gun nut reaction!!!

: : : No, I didn't get any letter. I read it online... the press release announcing the introduction of the bill back in February. I just posted now because "bmac" brought up the idiotic PA bill requiring a $10 anual fee for each legally owned firearm....A $10 a year fee to own something the 2nd ammendment gives you the RIGHT to own!

: : : Have you read about HR 1022? If not, how can you determine I'm a "gun nut"?
: : : I'm not a gun "nut", I just realize the value of our second ammendment rights and what lengths the anti-gun people are willing to go to to crush them.

: : : Why aren't the Dems against this violation of our constitutional rights? Any other time they strongly oppose any violation of our rights.

: : : The Patriot law, abortion, gay marriage...all issues where the Democrats have claimed violations of the constitution. Yet when it comes to the second ammendment, they want to talk about how old the constitution is and how THIS right is no longer legitimate.

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: : Look at what happened today at Virginia Tech. When will all you happy go lucky gun totters wake up and realize that there needs to be immediate action taken. Countries with stiff gun laws do not have students killing students. I own guns, and do not have one problem with registering them every year. I have to pay a fee every year for owning a dog, and I guarantee he is never going to kill anyone. So what is the big deal. You keep talking about your rights, but it would be a differant song you would sing if it would be your loved one shot down innocently. Not only do you need to wake up, GROW UP!!!!!!!!!

: From what I've heard we don't know what type of guns were involved, or if the guns were legal or not.

: We also don't know if there were drugs or any other factors involved.

: We don't know if this guy should have been in prison already for some other crime.

: Another reason they don't have stuff like this happening in other countries is because they have stiffer penalties for murder. If somebody murders someone, they are put to death. But wait a minute...all the liberals are against that also.

: They are against guns, but when a guy kills somebody with one, they don't want him put to death.

: Maybe you don't have a problem with paying $10 each year for every gun you own, but many do.
: Many also see it for what it truly is, an attempt to get a complete registry of all guns so they can more easily take them all away from the citizens when the time comes.

: Two things about your dog.

: 1. You can get a lifetime license for your dog for a one time fee.

: 2. How is it you can "guarantee" he isn't going to kill someone? By that same logic you could say your guns will never kill anybody. Your dog has a mind of it's own. Your guns do not.

: I have had a friend who was shot. I've also been shot at. Those wre the fault of the people who pulled the trigger, not the 2nd ammendment.

: Can you still here what I'm "singin"?

: I think it is you who needs to wake up. Wake up and realize how valuable the 2nd ammendment is and how many men have died so that we have this right.

I have to comment on a couple of things you’ve said:

I’m not sure which countries you’re talking about because most civilized countries do not have the death penalty, only the USA. But I don’t have a problem with it either.

I’ve been around for over a half century and never was shot at. What the hell are you doing in your life that people are trying to kill you. No wonder you like the second amendment.

Just as many died for the First amendment but I don’t see many people fighting to save it anymore.

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: : : : : : : : The recent attempted registration/confiscation of legally owned weapons should really be no surprise. Many of the people I spoke with about the Democrats' anti-gun agenda said that there was nothing to worry about. I told 'em, "Just watch and see what they try to do if they get control of the houe and senate". : : : : : : : : On Feb 14, 2007 (just 41 days after the Dems took the helm) Rep. Carolyn McCarthy, a Democrat from NY introduced H.R. 1022. : : : : : : : : This bill, if passed, would not only reinstate the Clinton gun ban, which expired in 2004, but would also ban any guns that were made to comply with the Clinton bill. : : : : : : : : The bill would also ban many additional weapons that the Clinton ban did not, such as all semi-automatic shotguns. : : : : : : : : (For those of you who don't hunt, these are used by many PA small game hunters) : : : : : : : : The bill bans any guns deemed "not sporting" by the Attorney General, even tough the U.S. constitution gives us the right to use guns for defense. : : : : : : : : Also, whereas the Clinton ban was temporary and expired after 10 years, the McCarthy bill would be permanent. : : : : : : : : Whether or not this bill wil get the support it needs to pass is still up in the air. They will probably hold off on voting on it until they see if they can get Hillary or one of the other Dems into the Whitehouse. That way, they can be assured it will pass without the risk of a veto. : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : Good. It's about time. : : : : : : : Let's have innocent people die everyday by semi-automatic guns just so a bunch of people can kill deer. Brilliant. : : : : : : : I applaud anyone who stands up to the idiots in the NRA. : : : : : : This goes to show the stupidity of the anti-gunner. : : : : : : Semi-automatic weapons are not allowed in the hunting of big game (deer). : : : : : : Studies required by Congress prior to the Clinton ban showed that the weapons prohibitted by the Clinton ban were used in less than 2% of all violent crimes. The Clinton ban had little to no effect on this. : : : : : : It's funny (not really) how the very same people who rant and rave any time any of our other constitutional rights are violated are so quick to rape us of our 2nd ammendment rights. : : : : : My guess is you just got the monthly NRA letter asking for money and this little gem was in there to get you to send them some $$$$$ Typical gun nut reaction!!! : : : : No, I didn't get any letter. I read it online... the press release announcing the introduction of the bill back in February. I just posted now because "bmac" brought up the idiotic PA bill requiring a $10 anual fee for each legally owned firearm....A $10 a year fee to own something the 2nd ammendment gives you the RIGHT to own! : : : : Have you read about HR 1022? If not, how can you determine I'm a "gun nut"? : : : : I'm not a gun "nut", I just realize the value of our second ammendment rights and what lengths the anti-gun people are willing to go to to crush them. : : : : Why aren't the Dems against this violation of our constitutional rights? Any other time they strongly oppose any violation of our rights. : : : : The Patriot law, abortion, gay marriage...all issues where the Democrats have claimed violations of the constitution. Yet when it comes to the second ammendment, they want to talk about how old the constitution is and how THIS right is no longer legitimate. : : : : : : _________________________________________________ : : : Look at what happened today at Virginia Tech. When will all you happy go lucky gun totters wake up and realize that there needs to be immediate action taken. Countries with stiff gun laws do not have students killing students. I own guns, and do not have one problem with registering them every year. I have to pay a fee every year for owning a dog, and I guarantee he is never going to kill anyone. So what is the big deal. You keep talking about your rights, but it would be a differant song you would sing if it would be your loved one shot down innocently. Not only do you need to wake up, GROW UP!!!!!!!!! : : From what I've heard we don't know what type of guns were involved, or if the guns were legal or not. : : We also don't know if there were drugs or any other factors involved. : : We don't know if this guy should have been in prison already for some other crime. : : Another reason they don't have stuff like this happening in other countries is because they have stiffer penalties for murder. If somebody murders someone, they are put to death. But wait a minute...all the liberals are against that also. : : They are against guns, but when a guy kills somebody with one, they don't want him put to death. : : Maybe you don't have a problem with paying $10 each year for every gun you own, but many do. : : Many also see it for what it truly is, an attempt to get a complete registry of all guns so they can more easily take them all away from the citizens when the time comes. : : Two things about your dog. : : 1. You can get a lifetime license for your dog for a one time fee. : : 2. How is it you can "guarantee" he isn't going to kill someone? By that same logic you could say your guns will never kill anybody. Your dog has a mind of it's own. Your guns do not. : : I have had a friend who was shot. I've also been shot at. Those wre the fault of the people who pulled the trigger, not the 2nd ammendment. : : Can you still here what I'm "singin"? : : I think it is you who needs to wake up. Wake up and realize how valuable the 2nd ammendment is and how many men have died so that we have this right. : I have to comment on a couple of things you’ve said: : <Another reason they don't have stuff like this happening in other countries is because they have stiffer penalties for murder. If somebody murders someone, they are put to death.> I’m not sure which countries you’re talking about because most civilized countries do not have the death penalty, only the USA. But I don’t have a problem with it either. : <I have had a friend who was shot. I've also been shot at.> I’ve been around for over a half century and never was shot at. What the hell are you doing in your life that people are trying to kill you. No wonder you like the second amendment. : <Wake up and realize how valuable the 2nd ammendment is and how many men have died so that we have this right.> Just as many died for the First amendment but I don’t see many people fighting to save it anymore.
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