Posted by 2 cents on January 12, 2007 at 17:52:33 (EST):
In Reply to: Re: Whos running for kittanning boro council posted by The Chief on January 12, 2007 at 16:19:52 (EST):
: : : : : : : : : She hasn't even lived in the borough for years.
: : : : : : : : : but I'm pretty sure she is STILL living at her house...OUTSIDE of the borough.
: : : : : : : : So which is it, does she live in the borough or not? If you're just "pretty sure" you shouldn't have posted misinformation.
: : : : : : : There was absolutely NO "misinformation". I WAS, in fact, pretty sure. Had I said I WAS sure she lived outside the borough, THAT would have been misinformation.
: : : : : : That’s exactly what you did say in the first sentence, “She hasn’t even lived in the borough for years”. You were very clear and that is misinformation. You just back peddled in the second sentence. But then you go off and repeat the same misinformation, “She does not LIVE in the Borough... Do you understand that?
: : : : : : : My opinion after further review of the issue:
: : : : : : : NO. She does not LIVE in the borough...She gets some MAIL delivered there.
: : : : : : : That's it.
: : : : : : : Never stays.
: : : : : : : No lights.
: : : : : : : No heat.
: : : : : : : No water.
: : : : : : : The house has had "water damage" for FOUR years now.
: : : : : : : She's not "staying with" her sister, as she's been dead for some time now.
: : : : : : : If she had any intention of ever residing there again the repairs would have been made long ago.
: : : : : : : Read the article in Wednesday's L-T. See if you think she intends or has ever intended to move back into that house. (Nichleach sates 3 years...Feb 03 to Jan 07 is just one month shy of 4 years)
: : : : : : : She remains on council on judge's opinion.
: : : : : : I’ve read the article and a judge has rule that Mary Piluso has indeed “maintained her domicile at 943 N. Grant Ave. in Kittanning. So the issue is settled! What was misinformation on your part is now libel after this judge’s ruling. Mary Piluso is one of the most dedicated and hardest working members ever on Kittanning council.
: : : : : The judge decided that Mary Piluso has maintained her domicile in Kittanning. That's it. That's the legal requirement and she has met it. What's the problem? This thing was the subject of a full day trial a few months back.
: : : : : I suppose that her lawyer Chuck Pascal and Judge Nickleach are just corrupt or stupid???
: : : : "Living in" and "maintaining a domicile in" are two entirely different issues. The council members are supposed to be RESIDENTS of the borough. Which means they have to RESIDE in the borough. Not just own a home there and NOT LIVE in it.
: : : : I never said she didn't "maintain a domicile" and I STILL maintain she doesn't "LIVE" in the borough. Her lawyer never claimed nor did the judge rule that she "LIVES" in the borough.
: : : : Corrupt or stupid?....I'll let you decide on which one.
: : : : Hardest working!!!
: : : : That's freakin hilarious.
: : : : She's wasted and caused us to miss out on a boatload of funds.
: : : : Wasted...$1,400 trash cans.
: : : : Missed out on...didn't get money because she neglected to file the paper work for borough equipment that we should have gotten money for.
: : : : Inability...waits until the last possible minute to suggest to council how to spend funds, thus giving the council only two options...spend it on what SHE wants... or not receive it at all.
: : : You should look up words before you argue your points. The judge ruled that Ms. Piluso "maintained her domicile at 943 N. Grant Ave. in Kittanning. Domicile means "a place of residence; abode; house or home or how the law defines it: a permanent legal residence. The word residence means: the place, esp. the house, in which a person lives or resides; dwelling place; home. So the judge ruled that Mary Piluso does indead reside in Kittanning.
: : : Second you defame her hard work. She is not the only person sitting on the board, but you seem to blame her for all Kittanning's problems. Why? What axe do you need to grind?
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: : Yes, as a matter of fact I DID look up the words. "Domicile" means just that, a permanent place of LEGAL residence. As I stated, she does not LIVE in that house though. She LIVES at her sister's house(probably owned by her now).
: : To most normal thinking people, RESIDNG means actually LIVING in the home, not just merely having that address on my driver's license and collecting some mail there.
: : A lot of people have LEGAL residences different from where they actually LIVE.
: : I'm sure when the law was written, it was not for the purpose of giving people who merely maintain a LEGAL residence within the borough. It was intended to assure that the council members were all people who LIVED within the borough.
: : Just admit it...she manipulated the system.
: : As for "defaming" he "good work"...I just stated the obvious.
: : I haven't seen ANY council member screw up NEARLY as many things or waste NEARLY as much money as I have seen her.
: : "Axe to grind"...No, I just think it's bullshit that somebody as inept as her should be on the council, let alone the fact that she doesn't even LIVE in the borough.
: Well my advice to you is either file another lawsuit stating that Judge Nickleach didn’t know what he was doing when he ruled in favor of Ms. Piluso and stop libeling her or run for office against her and see if you can do better. This lady gives her heart and soul for Kittanning. She is the first to volunteer for everything. Can you do better?
: She didn’t “manipulate” anything. She fully intends to move back into her house and live in the town she loves and apparently Judge Nickleach fully agrees. So you should stop slandering her.
: If you don’t think other council members “screw up” then I think you’re not looking to hard and like I said you just have an axe to grind against Ms. Piluso.
I didn't say Nickleach didn't know what he was doing. I said the LAW was written wrong. The LAW should have more concise language stating that the person must live/dwell within the borough.
I'm not "libeling" anybody, to do so would require that what I said be untruthful.
"Heart and soul"? The only thing I've known her to give to anything is hair to the drain.
First to volunteer...first to screw it up.
Yes, she HAS manipulated the system. She knows damn well what the the INTENTION of that law is, yet she has fought in court against it. Thus, not only seving her own personal interests, but also incurring additional court costs and legal fees to the taxpayers.
She has no intention of moving back into that house. Don't you think that if she were such an adept person to correctly manage all of the things you say, she would also have the ability to fix some water damage in her own house within less than four years?
Nickleach didn't rule that she fully intends to move back into that house, he ruled that it was her domicile, or legal place of residence, as you stated before.
I am not "slandering" anybody. Maybe it is YOU who needs to look things.
Slander is verbal, libel is written.
No I don't think the rest of the members don't screw up. I just know she screws up far, far more than the rest of them.
I also know that if that law were written to more closely mirror it's intention, she would be out on her ass.
Maybe that would be good for her though.
At least then she would have the time to focus on getting her house fixed, and she could return to it to live in the town she so dearly LOVES.